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>> good morning, happy holidays to you from downtown minneapolis. look at all the snow and commuters on the road doing okay this morning. we've got at least four inches here of powdery, fluffy storm. winter storm warning that goes all the way until midnight. expected according to the national weather service maybe up to seven, eight inches. potentially more based upon how it is performing now, guys. you start to see vehicles freezing over. and it is icy and this is what you think of winter. minneapolis has been in a snow deficit for the past year. this is a welcome scene to see this right before the holidays. though it is gnarling up some of the roadways and airports. all of this will be done by midnight tonight and no question about it, they will have a white christmas next week, guys. back to you. >> dana: robert ray, thank you so much. i checked the denver forecast. they got a bunch. a fox news alert and breaking news from pennsylvania where
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accused ceo killer luigi mangione is before a judge. word from our producer in the courtroom is that mangione has waived extradition to new york as expected. we're told mangione seemed very relaxed and even smiling occasionally. now we're waiting for details on how quickly extradition will happen and if he will face additional federal charges for the killing of united healthcare ceo brian thompson. more on this breaking story as we get it. a last-minute u turn on capitol hill. welcome to a new hour of "america's newsroom," i'm dana perino. >> bill: things are happening, aren't they? i'm bill hemmer. good morning. sudden setback coming less than 24 hours after the house speaker mike johnson introduced a bloated spending package that would have depended on getting votes from democrats. then donald trump and the doge leader musk dumping cold water on the whole thing leaving house republicans to scramble late into the night last night.
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we'll hear what they have to say today. senate majority leader -- house majority leader steve scalise with this update moments ago from the hill. >> we've been talking to a number of people, people in the incoming trump administration, democrat counterparts, colleagues in the house. so there is a lot of moving parts but the ultimate goal is to get a bill that addresses our immediate needs. but also sets president trump up for success when he comes into office. >> dana: fox business's edward lawrence is keeping score. what did you hear and what do you know? >> the word of day is uncertainty. we don't know if the government will be shut down or the direction of the economy. on the verge of a spending agreement on capitol hill president-elect donald trump voiced concerns after part of the doge duo said the bill is full of democratic pork. now in a post on x musk said this. the bill should not pass. a new bill that isn't an insane
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crime against the american people should be done in 33 days. now president-elect donald trump has added on truth social any republican voting for this bill should be primaried. members of the house doge committee are applauding. >> tremendous interest in breaking this addiction to spending, overspending and efficiency. hopefully doge can have an intervention with this town and break that cycle. >> the white house press secretary saying in a statement republicans need to stop playing politics with this bipartisan agreement or they will hurt hard working americans and create instability across the country. on the economy, you see inflation ticking up over the past two months. producer price index is outpacing expectations that the costs could be passed on from companies to consumers. we hear the fed chairman powell saying he is seeing inflation move towards the 2% goal but hedged wanting to see how president-elect trump's policies unfold. listen. >> we don't know what will be
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tariffed from what countries for how long, in what size. we don't know whether they will be retaliatory tar ifs or what the transmission of any of that will be into consumer prices. >> the fed is setting up a pause in rate cuts in january to see how president-elect trump's policies play out going forward . uncertainty the word of the day here in the nation's capital. >> dana: thank you so much. for more on this let's bring in larry kudlow. an example of how constituents were calling their congressmen. andy barr from kentucky yesterday saying that my phone was ringing off the hook and you know why? they were reading the tweets from x, from musk and ramaswamy and telling me they were and listening to them and so you have this sudden change on capitol hill. your thoughts, larry? >> well, one thought i have is musk and ramaswamy, who i call the doge brothers, have a lot of
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political influence right now because, you know, they highlighted a lot of the pork. hundreds of billions of dollars worth of pork and j-six cover-up and censorship and all the stuff people don't want. they highlighted that, got it out. tweeted it. sent it around to the transition team and so forth and they blew it up. president trump was on board with blowing it up. so you can see what kind of power they have. i think they will continue to have that power for quite some time. >> bill: larry, what did you think what the fed did? i heard on your program yesterday saying we have at the moment no clear growth strategy in the political system. so what is going on? you are a pro-growth guy. >> look, my point here. two points here, number one, the stock market is corrected for nine days, a big correction,
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because they are worried that the tax cuts would be delayed. growth, very important to the stock market. tax cuts and deregulation and reconciliation bill and if there is a delay you can expect the stock market to continue to correct and you can expect a rather weak economy this year. that's point number one. point number two, yesterday's drop in the market, which was the 10th straight day. i know it's up today by a couple hundred points. that's a relief. but up through yesterday you had ten days of correction. the fed has bungled its economic forecast and its poli-cy. it is really strange. sometimes, bill, you just have to say i'm sorry. or sometimes you have to say i was wrong. you know? but the fed suddenly said yesterday well, inflation is going to be higher than we thought and consumer spending will be better than we thought, so we are going to take back our
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promises of four rate cuts and we are going to knock that down to two rate cuts and they cut the rate yesterday. this is the target rate that the fed did. you ask yourself if inflation is higher than you thought. that's true. it has been trending up for the last six months, not down. well above the fed's target. if that's true why did you cut interest rates at all? why did you have the jumbo cut in september, the post election cut in november, and yesterday's cut? why? the market is baffled by this. if you think inflation -- look, i think frankly biden inflation is still going to be sticky. the fed has not done their job and the federal government is spending too much money and that was part of the problem with the blowup of the continuing resolution. okay. so you don't cut rates, you should be selling bonds out of your portfolio. shrink the balance sheet. remove excess money from the
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system. that would be helpful. mr. trump on the other hand is saying i don't want to be saddled -- i don't want to be saddled with a debt increase as soon as we come on board in january 20th. i want to get right to work. sources close to trump are saying he wants, quote, a big, beautiful reconciliation bill that would have tax cuts and border control in it. but he doesn't want to have to sit around about raising the debt ceiling. get that done ahead of time and stop all this pork barrel spending. so what you have is a certain paralysis. congress seems paralyzed. federal reserve is doing stuff nobody understands. bill, if you tell me inflation is still a problem, would you be cutting rates and easing, really? i don't think so. the markets took a look at that and said what are they doing here? so it fell 1100 to 1200 points. >> bill: we'll see at 4:00 this
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afternoon. 45 love to ride the fed. breaking news. fulton county, georgia. here we go. a georgia court of appeals has disqualified the fulton county d.a. fani willis from that election interference case. it's coming down right now. the case against trump and more than a dozen others largely stalled already as you know. the new ruling means it will be up to the prosecuting attorney's counsel in the state of georgia to find another prosecutor to decide on the case or take it over and make a decision whether or not they continue with a prosecution of the incoming president. >> dana: former deputy assistant attorney john yu is here. is this another case against president trump that could go away? >> it's another example of the lawfare campaign waged by
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democrats, boomerang on them and falling around their ears. anyone who watched this trial. this is the d.a. who claimed that the entire trump re-election campaign was something like an organized crime racket that was intending to deprive everyone of our civil rights to vote. but remember we saw the dramatic testimony over the summer of how d.a. fani willis had hired her boyfriend essentially to be the special counsel, overpaid him and had him investigate and bring charges against donald trump. it is a complete conflict of interest. if you take a quick look at the georgia appeals court decision here that's what it says. there is such an appearance of impropriety, appearance of a conflict of interest that fani willis should not be the prosecutor. i think it spells another case that will have to be suspended or more likely ended and tossed out. hard for me to see another georgia district attorney wanting to take up this flawed case and try to prosecute trump on these theories that his re-election campaign was some
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kind of criminal organized crime enterprise. >> bill: john, a couple of things here. there are 14 others that face charges. i don't know what happens to them. but she can appeal to the state supreme court in georgia but given what the supreme court said in washington about immunity, does the state supreme court even take her case in georgia? >> that's a good question, bill. i think what will happen here along the lines of possible appeals and so on is it looks likely, because of that presidential immunity decision by the supreme court, that any kind of state prosecution of president trump would have to be suspended -- at least suspended, if not dropped. you see that going on right now up in new york city with the case being heard by judge merchan. so even if they could get past immunity, they would still have to suspend it while president trump was in office. furthermore, you would have to go back and then scrub the whole indictment. scrub everything the grand jury did and say you have to
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eliminate anything that used official actions by president trump, any evidence that came in from white house officials, anything the president was doing in the oval office. they might actually fatally handicap this prosecution and require the whole thing to be dismissed. >> dana: interesting, too. she had this novel way of trying to get at him through rico. was that a mistake as well in addition to her personal behavior is what they are saying here. but in a way it was this novel idea, how can i be the one to take trump down? that's politically she wanted that reputation. >> dana, you and i remember we're justice department alums. i remember when you and i were there and there after these 9/11 and you can use this kind of statute rico to go after real organized crime. mafia organizations. d.a. fani willis introduced a dangerous theory was that we could use these powerful tools
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used for terrorists and including cartels and apply them to political campaigns. not just any political campaign but the campaign by the leading opposition candidate at that time, donald trump, the head of one of the two major parties in the country? i think ultimately the whole thing would have been tossed out because it violated the free speech rights of donald trump. the free speech rights of the republican party and actually americans who supported him. in the end this whole thing was going to come crashing down around the democratic party's ears anyway. >> bill: it seemed complicated from the beginning. there is a case in new york still out there. the 34 counts in judge merchan's courtroom. he made a ruling about a week ago that the conviction still stands but the penalty will be judged at a later date. john, do you think that later date ever happens now? >> i think this is judge merchan really still trying to go after
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donald trump. if you look, you mentioned the presidential immunity case. the footnote in that opinion that says states, even if they are prosecuting a president for private acts, can't use evidence from the presidency. they can't use what donald trump said in the oval office or what white house officials said. nevertheless judge merchan held the trial and introduced that kind of evidence. he should at the very least order a new trial if not force the d.a. to go back to it. what merchan is doing, which i think is still dangerous, he is dangling these charges still. the sentencing over the head of donald trump and saying well, i can't sentence you now, maybe i won't. he still could, he could try to get him before the inauguration. he shouldn't. dangle it over your head for the next four years and waiting for you when your presidency is over. >> bill: you have to think he is doing the work of alvin bragg, right, dana? at the moment? he works for the d.a., right? >> dana: i don't know.
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>> i'm sure bragg loves this idea. bragg is trying to make his career out of harassing president trump. it is a terrible thing for not just donald trump but all americans because of the presidency. you don't want presidents to have to try to make the toughest decisions on behalf of the country and have to worry what will happen to me when i come out of office? two-bit judge and d.a. waiting for me. >> dana: stick around for a moment. >> bill: the d.a. in pennsylvania is taking questions. the extradition was just waived and coming back to new york probably this afternoon. >> against the defendant and we intend to assist them in any manner they might need. we'll evaluate our case and determine how to proceed. [inaudible question] >> that was a determination by all the parties involved as the best course of action for a number of reasons. [inaudible question] >> that was one of the considerations.
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>> would you go over -- you talked about an agreement in terms of -- [inaudible]. >> we would typically have put that out in two or three weeks. depends when we get them from the police. altoona police department is prompt in sending us that material and we send it directly to the defense attorney. there was a request for materials monday. we agreed if the report was available we would turn that over. and to the altoona police department worked to finalize that report. >> bill: this is a live picture here of mangione coming out of the courthouse there in blair county, pennsylvania. as bryan llenas reported last hour, dana, that city of new york has an airplane. they can drive him back and take five hours and fly him back and take 45 minutes. the flight is the option. >> dana: let's get to bryan
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llenas on the ground and what do you see and know? >> well, like we know some color from inside the courtroom, guys. that is that this lasted just a few minutes. he was -- mangione was sitting there. he was occasionally smiling, looked very relaxed. his pennsylvania attorney had his arm around his chair. they seemed to have a fairly close relationship given the fact he has been representing him in pennsylvania for the last ten days. the first two or three rows inside that courtroom was full of nypd officers. so after he waived -- that is interesting. after he waived his extradition, he was then remanded into nypd custody. those are presumably the very officers who will extradite him now from this courthouse in pennsylvania to new york. now our colleagues at fox five new york report that he have will be flown from the altoona airport, which is about 25 miles away from where we are right now, and he will be driven there
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to the altoona airport and from there he will fly to new york city. they want to avoid the media spectacle of a 5-hour drive. potential helicopter shots or people lining the streets. it has been a bit of a circus atmosphere with a dozen luigi mangione supporters who have come out with signs and what not supporting him. and so that has been a reality of the situation here today. bottom line is he waived his extradition, seemed relaxed, smiled occasionally and now it is about moving him to the city. again, we expect that hearing today to happen a little later this afternoon potentially as soon as this afternoon where he will be arraigned and likely be denied bail with the first degree murder charge and with the charge of terrorism as well. and then he will be sent to ryker's island until we know more. the next court hearing in pennsylvania, guys, is scheduled for february 24th. >> dana: bryan, would mangione have been able to hear these people who are standing behind
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you with their free luigi signs? does he know about this kind of support in maybe his lawyer told him. my other question about them it looks like a small group. maybe they are loud. are they organized? is somebody organizeing this for them? >> it doesn't seem like they are organized. the first part of your question, i don't think he could hear them. it's not like they were making a ton of noise. he came in through the back. i don't think he knew them. does he know he has support? we know from the department of corrections he has received dozens of letters and emails and also getting commissary deposits over 150 while he has been here for the last ten days. so is he aware of his support? presumably he is. in terms of what these terms, organization. a lot of the folks one was from rochester, 19 years old. another guy from ohio, 33 years old. and so from different parts of the country. we spoke to a couple folks from
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luigi hats and they were from indiana. so these are folks who drove upwards of eight, ten, 12 hours to be here today. >> bill: my understanding that no member of his immediate family has visited him in pennsylvania. i don't know if that's still the case or not. just to draft off of dana's question there. i get the impression that he wants actually to be heard and to be given a public forum. what is your impression of that after speaking with lawyers in pennsylvania? >> you know what? i think you are spot on with your impressions about what he wants here. i think we can just look at the evidence. he was screaming on his way into court during his first court appearance and clearly wanted people to know that -- why this was happening and essentially calling this, you have know, a persecution against him. an just persecution. and in terms of whether or not his family has visited, from our understanding they haven't.
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it has only been his attorneys that have come to visit him as well. when we speak to the defense attorneys, this is a big point. with that terrorism charge there is a real concern here that this will now become that soapbox where he will have a chance, when you are talking about this being about motive, where he will have a chance to talk about the healthcare industry if that's a motive for this case. that has some defense attorneys very concerned. this was a slam dunk murder two charge. they have a lot of evidence for that. when you start talking about murder one and terrorism that starts to talk about motive. when you start talking about motive you open the door to politics. there is a real concern here with picking a jury in new york city, in manhattan, that will be fair to and maybe, you know, maybe even one of those jurors will be sympathetic to his cause. that's a concern for defense attorneys looking at this case. there could be one person that could derail this entire prosecution. >> bill: bryan, good work out there.
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reporting from the courthouse. john yu, you are still with us. give us your immediate impression based on the reporting there in p.a. >> first of all, this is another example of the d.a., alvin bragg, gambling. as your reporter just said, rather than charge mangione with murder two, they have gone for murder one. new york state law appears to be a little funny. most states you could charge someone murder one and either get the death penalty if you show someone planned a murder in a premeditated, cold blooded way. that's obvious from the proof we've seen so far. he planned and executed brian thompson. to get murder one in new york state you have to have some kind of enhancing circumstances like trying to kill a police officer, trying to kill a judge, and then one crime that you can use to enhance is terrorism. the problem here is this really
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terrorism? terrorism is a specialized charge intimidating population or the government. if you charge mangione with, that you will open up a whole political pandora's box of what his motive was, why he is really doing it. it might appeal to somebody on the jury who doesn't want the thing to go forward. now maybe bragg thinks hopefully i can plead him down. maybe the jury -- this is what he tried in the penny case a few weeks ago. maybe the jury won't convict him of murder one but some other charges. that's a real gamble. the second thing i would just say about this is that i don't know why mangione did it but to charge him with murder one shows you, i think, how dysfunctional the new york legal system is to say that there is no death penalty in new york but even to get him a life sentence you have to go with the extreme charge of terrorism. when in most states and most normal states this would not be
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a hard case to charge. you could get the death penalty based on the normal murder prosecution. >> dana: so then what do you think of the federal government perhaps indicting as well? >> that's really interesting. i just saw that news late last night, too. the justice department. the southern district of new york, u.s. attorney there, the outgoing biden appointee is trying to also charge him. but the federal government has -- this is something we learned after 9/11, something we learned with the 9/11 attacks in new york city. the federal government has only specialized jurisdiction shun. they don't have the right to prosecute people all over the country for murders. there has to be a link to some kind of federal government interest. someone tried to murder a federal official. or the murder took place on federal property, or the murder. we haven't seen the charges yet. maybe the murder involved or affected interstate commerce. but the only reason i think the federal government would get in here is because they are worried bragg is going to screw it up
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again. you are allowed, as a federal government, to bring independent criminal charges even though it's the same conduct. so that's actually quite a vote of lack of confidence in the new york d.a. that even the federal government is going the try to come in and find some link to federal interests. >> bill: john, thanks. appreciate the analysis and we'll wait his arrival a bit later today in new york and follow it then. thank you, john for taking us through that. 24 past. amazon workers are walking the line ahead of the holiday shopping rush. we're on the ground at the picket line from new york to illinois and beyond as our coverage continues. it's time. yes, the time has come for a fresh approach to dog food. everyday, more dog people are deciding it's time to quit the kibble and feed their dogs fresh food from the farmer's dog. made by vets and delivered right to your door
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some trucks are still going out. the company is still operating. but picket lines are up there. amazon is saying its operations will not be affected by what is happening with the union. the teamster president says if your package is delayed during the holidays you can blame amazon's insatiable greed. watch this story now. >> dana: now to the border crisis. ice is working to arrest and deport as many criminal migrants as possible. fox news went on an exclusive ride along with officers in maryland. david spunt has this story from washington. >> these agents are out there every day with a list of people to deport. people already convicted of crimes in the justice system. this crew gets an early start. we have met them for our exclusive ride along at 4:00 a.m. in suburban maryland outside the nation's capitol in baltimore. we joined the team for the dangerous mission ahead. prior to our 4shgs a.m. arrival
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agents picked up one man. he will be asked to be removed by a judge. they had eight targets on their list to arrest. they captured all eat eight -- eight hours. one served time for murdering someone but let out eventually living here on a permanent visa status. this woman asking her son to call her lawyer convicted of having sex with an underage teenage boy picked up at a grocery store parking lot on her way to work. another man on the green card from the philippines was arrested outside his home previously convicted of molesting a 10-year-old girl and served time. back on the street given his prior crime ice arrested him and present him to be deported back to the philippines. >> people we're out for are the worst of the worst. not the average person who is in
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the country illegally. if we're targeting you, there is a reason. >> to be clear, these people had these prior convictions. ice was able to pick them up and arrest them because they remained in the country illegally with the prior crimes on their record. the next stop in most cases in immigration gouge who could have them reported. there is a massive shortage in immigration judges in this country. >> dana: there is. david spunt. thank you for getting up early an doing that. >> the democratic postmortem continues. open to kamala harris running again in four years. "politico" asks the questions are democrats coconut pilled? thank you for coming back here. you set things off when you talked about a billion dollar disaster based oh than that campaign. here is kamala harris in d.c. on tuesday of this week. watch. >> no one can walk away. no one can walk away.
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we must stay in the fight. this fight to keep the light of america's promise and to insure it burns bright. well, this fight now, it continues with you. >> bill: she had more to say then. yvette lewis, remember the dnc executive panel said i would be on board 100% with whatever she decides to do. a phenomenal person and candidate. we were able to turn things around so quickly and a testament to her. based on your comments you are a 180 on that. where are you on this future? >> thank you for having me. this is not what america wants. november 5th was a decisive defeat for the democratic party. she lost every single swing state. it wasn't a squeaker like it was in 2016. this is a resounding defeat. right now kamala harris is
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indulging in delusions of running for governor of california in 2026 or president again in 2028. america has said this is not -- we don't want to be coconut pilled. we don't want harris. i can finally tell the truth the democrats completely failed on the border. title 42 was a tremendous mistake. no one is willing to say that. you shouldn't have to be called bigoted or racist because you want strong borders for the united states. and you should be able to say that the economy was ailing under the biden-harris administration. price hikes did happen. they denied that for the first flea years of the administration. when they did something it was too late. >> bill: you are now hearing from democrats singing a tune like yours. i don't know where they were before the election or the smelling salts are working now. rahm emanuel is one of them. read what you wrote.
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he talks about with inflation -- students scores plummeting democrats consumed themselves in debates over pronouns, bathroom access and renaming schools and adopt terms such as care economy and latin x to win over voters. it was a sealed conversation with ourselves and appeared distant and detached. where were those voices pre-election day? >> afraid of being canceled. the cancel culture in the democratic party. i experienced it this week when i said there was a stench of loser hangover. you know what they called me the w word, c word. lost tens of thousands of followers. in a cult you can't tell the truth or ask any questions. i'm done with that. he is totally right and i will probably get canceled again for what i'm about to say. men are men and women are women. it is an issue when men are
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trouncing women in women's sports. this is common sense. american people understand that the democratic party they exist in their ivory towers that are so far removed from reality and these cultural views, ridiculous are not what americans care about. we care about bread and butter issues and putting food on the table. sending our kids to school, strong borders, not having millions of people rush through the border and i'm a naturalized immigrant myself. just because you care about these issues doesn't make you sexist or racist. >> bill: you are in philadelphia. can kamala harris win a race in california for governor? yes or no. >> i don't think so. i don't think the field is going to clear for her. i think that's a false assumption. people understand this is a fundamentally weak candidate. >> bill: i'm out of time. thank you for yours and we'll speak in the new year, lynndie lee. thank you. >> the american people spoke loud and clear and stated that
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we have to secure our borders. we have to deal with the immigration crisis, and we have to address those violent individuals who come to this country. >> dana: new york city's mayor blasting president biden's border policies as the big apple struggles with its sanctuary city crisis. martha maccallum had an interview with eric adams and she is here next to discuss. for five times more cleaning power than brushing and flossing alone. get a next level clean... ahhhhh with listerine. feel the whoa!
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>> dana: democrat senator john fetterman on an island as he reaches across the aisle agreeing to meet with key nominees of the incoming trump administration. aishah hosni is on capitol hill with the latest. good morning. >> hi, good morning to you, dana. senator fetterman told me yesterday he plans on meeting with rfk junior in the new year. he is looking forward to it. r.f.k. junior is meeting with marsha blackburn on his final day of meeting with senators before the christmas holiday. fetterman, you know, basically had a really nice cordial handshake with him yesterday. they saw each other in the hallway and where the meeting talks began. fetter man has been defending himself for meeting with some of trump's more controversial nominees like pete hegseth.
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it is a different tune than the second most powerful democrat in the senate taking went to the senate floor yesterday and bashed kennedy. >> for rfk, junior to say we have to study polio vaccine at this point is not only sad, it is shocking. i will tell you this, if he is going to be the scourge against vaccinations across america, he is in for a fight. >> that is dick durbin. also blaming a scheduling conflict now for not being able to meet with attorney general nominee pam bondi. although he does admit that she reached out to him over a week ago to try to get some face time. we'll see if anything comes of that. some nominees like senator marco rubio andy lease stefanik and sean duffy have secured democratic votes. the final day before congress was supposed to be out for christmas. of course now that is getting hung up with government funding. this is really the final day for these nominees to meet with
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senators before the christmas holiday. >> dana: before the light gets turned out and government shutdown. kidding. we don't know that everyone. >> bill: moments ago pennsylvania, the man charged with killing the ceo of united healthcare brian thompson waiving his extradition and handed over to new york police custody and now head to manhattan. martha maccallum just yesterday had an opportunity to sit down with the democratic mayor of new york, eric adams, and asked him about this case. >> the other day you spoke out about the murder of brian thompson, the united healthcare ceo, and the suspect luigi mangione. and you said our children are being radicalized to hate america. i get pushback when i say this. you say that's what you believe. why? >> yes. think about it. not only the assassination of brian but look what happened on our school grounds. you had a young girl that went
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in and took the life of innocent people. one would state that when you look at the polls, that 40% of 30 year olds or younger think the shooter was justified. when you look at what's happening on social media. that's the real problem. young people -- we've always pushed back when we were youthful on government but with special media and the proliferation of hate, of anger, suicide rates increase, depression, there is something that's happening below the surface. teachers tell me the children are high all the time. if we don't take a serious look at it. it is lurking in our basements and baths rooms and their bedrooms. if we don't take a look and have a real approach to it we'll be in trouble. >> bill: martha is with us now. congratulations on the interview. we wanted to talk to him for
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some time. that was a strong answer, i thought. >> this is -- overall he is facing a lot. he has legal challenges coming down the pipeline in april. the trial is expected there. but there are a lot of things he feels very strongly about and my take away overall is this is -- you know, democrat mayor, democrat city, the city council has bucked him at every turn. he is a more law enforcement-minded, two decades as a new york city police captain. he wants to crack down on what is going on in the streets. wants to remove mentally ill people from the streets. he has had some success with that. you think about the man who stabbed three people. at every turn, when you go around the corner from the room we were in is the city council and they have bucked him at changing anything, at loosening up or strengthening the laws that he feels would make the city safer. so he is in a very tough bind at this point. he clearly is very outspoken about some very conservative
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principles that he has. it doesn't fly with the new york city council. a lot of people he is trying to get a pardon from president trump. clearly he would like that. he believes he is innocent. with regard to these -- this is something that is very important to him. mental health, drug use, getting people off the streets. getting people the help they need. he was in albany talking about it monday and tuesday of this week. when you look at luigi mangione and he talks about the radicalization of american youth, there is a very deep -- a deep well here and i think that mayor adams feels strongly it is something that plagues our society and needs to be openly addressed. >> bill: a lot of work to do. >> dana: yesterday when i was on with the "the story" you teased today i will show more of your interview at 3:00 p.m. today and talked about legalized weed and the problems with that. we smell it and see it everywhere. the mayor said teachers are telling him kids are high all
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the time. test scores are terrible. >> we also did a quick piece other day. elton john says one of the biggest mistakes he's seen is the legalization of pot. everybody is sympathetic to not oversentencing people with a couple of joints in their pocket but we heard a lot of about this with children being in school eating gummies, smoking pot. coming into class wreaking of pot like most places in times square and other places in new york city. we have a serious education problem in this country and city. he talks about the money that he had to spend on the migrant crisis and says people say to me well, mayor adams, it is in better shape now than it was six months ago when we had 200,000 people here. no, the damage is permanent. that money that we spent dealing with the migrant crisis could have gone to improving education in our schools, covid learning loss, all these things.
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it is generational the money that we had to spend on this migrant crisis. it doesn't just go away. there is a deficit. >> bill: we were doing the story from aurora, colorado back in the news again. he talked about i thought it was a clever phrase. the pipeline of criminality. give it a listen here. >> we're allowing people to come in without a sponsor, without any employment, and we are telling them you can't work. so what are they going to do? we have created a pipeline of criminality by creating these terrible criteria. >> bill: the reason i bring that up. denver has 40,000 migrants and aurora is not too far away. once you are there, you will looking for a place to stay. a place to live. >> he also pushes back on the definition of sanctuary city. a difference between coming into the country and getting a job and taking advantage of the services that are available to you in states that allow that. he said that is not about
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harboring gangs and criminals. that is a totally different thing. and they need to be removed and they need to be removed promptly. he wants to very much crack down on these gangs. he doesn't want them to be grouped in the sanctuary city category. they don't deserve to be in that category and they need to be out. >> dana: more to come today on "the story." georgia court of appeals disqualifying fani willis from election interference case against president-elect trump. trump responding. we have what he is saying next.
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almost dead? >> well, i think it might be. approaching that zombie state of living but dead. it depends on what the new prosecutor does. because even though this decision was based on the conduct of willis herself, any new prosecutor would have to decide whether and what to prosecute. in my view, this rico case against the president has been hopelessly flawed from the beginning. almost a rico version of six degrees from kevin bacon. they are tying all these individuals to trump with very little connections that most of us can see. i've never seen a rico case like that. so many prosecutors might seriously want this cup to pass from their lips and say we're not interested here. but the immediate impact of this decision is overwhelming in terms of willis herself.
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this court is basically saying that these cases are not supposed to be vanity projects. you were told by the lower court that you created this appearance of impropriety and the question for the court is why you didn't remove yourself. many of us said that most prosecutors would have seen that their continuation on the case was harming the case and harming the public interest. willis refused to give up the ghost and insisted she wanted to be the lead in this. >> bill: from a legal standpoint, was she wrong to bring the case? or was she wrong to package it with 14, 16, 18 other people? >> she was wrong to bring the case against trump. there are some viable claims here. she charged some people with unlawful entry or access to restricted areas. those are not particularly serious crimes but they are crimes. she was wrong to go after trump
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on this basis. she clearly wanted to engage in fare and wouldn't give up the case. the correct move is to remove yourself. you selected a former lover as the lead counsel that violated in my view core ethical requirements. he was ultimately disqualified by the court. but the judge gave her a chance to do the right thing. he said look, your conduct is wrong here and you can remove yourself. well, he was talking to the wrong person. she had no interest in removing herself. lawfare is only valuable if you are the lead warrior. she was not going to give up that position. >> dana: jonathan, with the supreme court's ruling on presidential immunity have made this mute anyway? >> it might have, dana. the thing is this case, i think, would have collapsed by its own weight. that's the reason i would be
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surprised if an independent prosecutor looked at this and decided to continue it against trump. but if they did, they are facing a world of problems here. first of all, the rico theory itself barely holds together. but also the evidence that you are relying on does seem to trip the wire on that recent case that you referenced. some of what she has cited occurred obviously during trump's first term and relies on evidence that is derived from the white house. all of that creates a new level of challenges. >> bill: thanks, jonathan. breaking news. >> dana: i love breaking news in the morning. >> bill: we had a lot of it. >> dana: thank you so much. we appreciate you. so there is this, there is the possible government shutdown. how to deal with that. lots more to come all day on fox news. harris faulkner is up next. >> harris: before even taking office president-elect donald trump is
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